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Almost a year ago, exactly on December 1, 2004, I sent
an email to Dr. Yale Rosen regarding his comments on a drawing allegedly made
by Natasha Demkina, as presented at this link. I sent
another email to him on the next day, but never got a reply. I also sent copies
then to both Professor Brian Josephson and Mr. Andrew Skolnick (the latter,
executive director of the CSMMH).
This month (November 2005) I was prompted once more to try to get some feedback
from Dr. Yale Rosen on this very same issue, this time because of Skolnick's
weird and unsocial conduct in a public internet forum, "The Museum of Hoaxes"
(on the thread at this
link; I joined the forum some weeks ago, and my messages appear on it
now, starting from page 15 on). At this forum, trying to labor through Skolnick's
twisted reasonings and bent views has been like rowing up "rocky" creek without
a paddle... One of his wildest "gems" was: "Julio Siqueira
feels he can argue with even the highest authorities in science. One of
the most ridiculous example is where he tried to correct the conclusion
of one of the world's leading authorities on what sarcoidsoses look like
-- even though the only thing Siqueira knows about sarcoidosis is how to
spell it. The distinguished scientist didn't bother to answer the kook's
email." (at this
link). Skolnick was fully aware that he was not telling the truth, and
that actually I had been most respectful and humble while addressing Dr. Rosen.
Despite that, he carried on with his questionable tactics.
I was quick in my response. What I did was to try once more to get a feedback
from Dr. Yale Rosen. This time, I was glad to receive a reply. So I
present below both my email to him and then his most informative and kind
reply.
My Email:
From: Julio Siqueira [mailto:juliocbsiqueira@terra.com.br]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 8:41 PM
To: yrosen@optonline.net
Subject: Andrew Skolnick's Use of Your Feedbacks...
Dear Mr. Yale Rosen,
Sometime ago I sent you an email regarding an inquiry made to you by
the "Comission of Scientific Medicine and Mental Health" (CSMMH) about
the russian girl Natasha Demkina, who they have nicknamed "the girl with
X-Ray eyes".
You did not answer.
Despite that, CSMMH, via Andrew Skolnick, is now using your "non-answer"
as a way to discredit the very question that I adressed you. So again I
direct the same question to you (I reproduce below the email that I sent
before) and let you know the kind of thing that is being said by CSMMH's
members regarding that, despite the fact that I was very polite in my
request to you (and also very precise in my technical doubts). Skolnick's
words: "Julio Siqueira feels he can argue with even the
highest authorities in science. One of the most ridiculous example is where
he tried to correct the conclusion of one of the world's leading authorities
on what sarcoidsoses look like -- even though the only thing Siqueira
knows about sarcoidosis is how to spell it. The distinguished scientist
didn't bother to answer the kook's email.". Link for this quote:
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/483/P400/
My previous email to you:
Dear Mr. Yale Rosen,
I am a Brazilian clinical microbiologist (I don't work as such) and I
have some interest in possible "paranormal" issues, both for the possible
benefits that it might bring if it happens to be true, but also for the
very many hazards that it can surely bring whenever it is untrue.
I came across a statement from you that has been published on the CSMMH
site (Comission for Scientific Medicine and Mental Health). They are using
your opinion to discredit the 17-year-old Russian girl Natasha Demkina,
the alleged "girl with x-ray eyes". So far, so good, for I agree with CSMMH
that Natasha may not be what is claimed about her, and topmost, she may
issue many false positives and false negatives in her "diagnoses", that
may lead thousands of people into danger.
But as to her drawing that they asked you to comment on (it is presented
at this link, together
with your opinion about it), I have a technical question. I did find it
to resemble sarcoidosis. I have absolutely no expertice in this. But I
did find it very much to resemble the macroscopic appearence of a whole
lung with sarcoidosis. And the photo of a lung with sarcoidosis that I
found similar to Natasha's drawing is a photo that is at your site!
(Atlas of Granulomatous Disease, especially this
link, where a Honeycomb Lung with Emphysema in the upper part of it
is shown).
It so happens that, contrary to what CSMMH says, this girl is absolutely
nowhere to be shown claiming to be able to see either at the molecular
level or at the cellular level. She is also nowhere to be shown claiming
to be able to see at the microscopic multicellular tissue level either.
The smallest scale that either me or the CSMMH people have proof of her
claiming to be able to see at is at things as small as 2 centimeters from
a distance of three meters at most.
So, most likely, that drawing refers to a big macroscopic structure.
Anyway, CSMMH people never bothered to ask her about it. And the Discovery
Channel program clearly indicates that the doctor did not use that drawing
to identify sarcoidosis. The guy from Russia, allegedly with sarcoidosis,
never said that. He clearly stated that he only showed the drawing to the
doctor after she looked into the microscope, and after she herself said
it was sarcoidosis. And from his report, it seemed quite possible that
the doctor didn't even care about the drawing that much.
So my question is: do you think that drawing migh somehow look any similar
macroscopically to a lung with sarcoidisis (honeycomb lung with emphysema
in the upper part of it). Natasha's drawing is at this link. The
photo at your site is at
this link.
Thank you very much beforehand for any feedback.
Sincerely,
Julio Cesar de Siqueira Barros.
MA Clinical Bacteriologist.
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Thank you very much for your kind attention, I apologize for any inconvenience,
and, nevertheless, hope that this time you will answer my email.
Julio Siqueira
M.A. in Clinical Bacteriology (non-practicing biologist)
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Dr. Rosen's Reply (on November 15, 2005):
Dear Mr. Siqueira:
The reason that I did not respond to your previous e-mail is that I never
received it.
In reply to your question:
1- I don't believe that any physician who looked at that drawing could come
to the conclusion that it represents a honeycomb lung with emphysema or, for
that matter, any other specific type of lung pathology.
2- The findings of honeycomb lung with emphysema depicted in that photograph
are completely non-specific and could represent an end-stage of many disease
processes including sarcoidosis. Any physician looking at that photograph
might be able to come up with a differential diagnosis of all of the diseases
that could produce that appearance but would not be able to say that the lung
belonged to an individual with sarcoidosis.
3- ? Resemblance of drawing to website photo: I believe that it would be
a stretch of the imagination to think that this drawing resembles the website
photo and an even further stretch of the imagination to think that any physician
would conclude that this drawing represents a diseased lung, let alone a lung
involved with sarcoidosis.
With best wishes.
Yale Rosen, M.D.
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